Monday, June 9, 2014

Lies, Damned Lies, and (Ukrainian Language) Statistics

Something original today. 

Anybody who has been following the Ukrainian situation over the last few months knows that there is a great divide between the Russian speakers, mostly concentrated in the east and south of Ukraine, and the Ukrainian speakers, which dominate the rest of the country. Journalists, pundits, and other professionals have bought out the maps and charts numerous times, so if there's one thing that's true, it must be this. Everybody agrees on this, correct?

Let's look at some of the maps that are representative of numerous maps found online these days. Though not all agreed on where the exact boundaries are located, many look similar to this map.

CC Photo Google Image Search Source is languagemaps files wordpress com  Subject is ukraine languages

So, overall, the country in general is one big happy Ukrainian family, with a small minority of malcontents concentrated in the east and the south. The areas on the map that these malcontents occupy is quite small; but since they occupy some of the most productive land in the country, they've just got to man up, swallow their pride, and get along with everybody else. That's not asking much, is it?

With a bit little more searching, I came across this map. Same country, but the area dominated by Russian speakers has shrunk more than 50%. In fact, it may have shrunk by 75%. I would be tempted to say that this map is a fluke, but look at what it says at the top. "Results from the Ukrainian 2001 census". Well damn, this simply has to be a more accurate map than the first one. Hey, it's based on the census! And once you take Crimea out of the picture, which Russia has conveniently done, the Russian speaking areas are so minute that he really shouldn't hurt Ukraine at all to let them go their own way. But hey, they are our malcontents. Once again, suck it up and get along. Is that so much to ask that you stick with the 99% of the country that speaks Ukrainian?

Note also that it states "The majority language by city, town, and village councils". If there's a requirement that council business be done in Ukrainian, it would make sense that these councils would be dominated by Ukrainian speakers. It's also a sign that even back in 2001, Russian speakers in Ukraine weren't particularly welcome in their own country!

Now let me say at this point that I believe that the first map is more accurate than the second map. This has nothing to do with any type of in-depth study of the issue; it's just that neither of those maps seem to accurately reflect what I have learned about this country over the last eight years. So, am I out of touch with reality, or is their something else going on here?

CC Photo Google Image Search Source is upload wikimedia org  Subject is UkraineNativeLanguagesCensus2001detailed en 1

Now, let's look at a third map I found. Gee, this seems pretty official too. It's from the Kiev National Linguistic University. Seems they would know something about languages.

Now although there are 10 or so colors on this map, this map concentrates on the three major colors. Red in the west. Yellow in the East. And Orange in the middle. The red is Ukrainian, the yellow is Russian, and the orange is Surzhyk.

Huh? Surzhyk? What the hell is that? Well, this Surzhyk is a mix of Russian and Ukrainian. It's a hybrid language. In the big scheme of things, this makes sense, doesn't it? It's a language that developed over centuries in areas between where Russian and Ukrainian dominates and is a mix of both.

Some good background information on Surzhyk.

CC Photo Google Image Search Source is cdn pjmedia com  Subject is LINGUISTIC MAP OF UKRAINE

Now let me say at this point that I believe this third map is more accurate than the other two. Again, this has nothing to do with any type of in-depth study of the issue; it's just that neither of those maps seem to accurately reflect what I have learned about this country over the last eight years.

Time to Compare

Now, compare the first map to the third map. Look at the area in red on the first map, and the area in yellow on the third map.

They seems quite similar, don't they, especially the further east you go. Then look at the green area in the first, and the combined yellow and orange area in the third map. Again, quite similar.

So, what exactly is going on here? Well, a few things.

1. Remember that these are maps that show areas where the language dominates. In the east of Ukraine, the areas are more densely populated, so they take up a smaller area on the map.

2. Note that in 2009, after 18 years of independence and almost as many years as Ukrainian was taught as the official language in Ukraine schools, that Ukrainian still doesn't dominate. And notice Surzhyk, a mixed language that's not officially recognized anywhere as a national language, and therefore has no set standards or rules as to what Surzhyk is, but it still predominates in approximately 1/2 of the country! (By area, not population). And note that Russian is still the dominant language in Kiev, which matches perfectly with what I've experienced.

3. What Ukrainian authorities are apparently doing here is a statistical sleight of hand. All the languages are counted separately, except for Surzhyk. While Surzhyk is likely closer to pure Russian in the East, and closer to pure Ukrainian in the West, (since there are no standards as to what Surzhyk is), that difference is not taken into account. All Surzhyk speakers are considered to be Ukrainian speakers.

Look at the third map. Ukrainian plus Surzhyk dominate about 60% of the map, while Russian plus Surzhyk dominates about 70%. This cannot be allowed to stand in a country that is hoping to develop its own unique identity, an Ukrainian identity. The map must be skewed to minimize the influence of their neighbor to the east, and skewed to maximize those influences that you want to promote.

It seems then that this concept of a united Ukraine has even less basis in reality then one would think.


  1. This is similar to report I heard in Boston July 3 from a LDS missionary recently returned after 4 years....Demeter

  2. A good example of Russian propaganda. (Good quality)
    And yeah. 90% of the population of Kiev (the capital) know the Russian language perfectly, but they almost all do not want it to become the official language.
    Because people do not have problems with using any language they like. Only Russia is trying to make a problem out of it, and their agents of influence.

    1. I alway find it fun to see how many people find it easy to speak up on behalf of the society. So how exactly you did you maesure the opinion of "almost all" russian-speaking people, who live in Kiev?

  3. I agree. Almost all do not want Russian to become "THE" official language. But I'd say a good number of them would like Russian to be "AN" official language. Big difference there...


All comments subject to moderation.

Recommended Reading via Amazon

If you're seeking more information about how the world really works, and not how the media would want you to believe it works, these books are a good start. These are all highly recommended.

If you don't see pictures above, you likely have an adblocker running.  If so, here are the links.

1. The Shock Doctrine - Naomi Klein
2. Confessions of an Economic Hit Man - John Perkins
3. Manufacturing Consent - Edward Herman, Noam Chomsky
4. Gladio - NATO's Dagger at the Heart of Europe - Richard Cottrell
5. Profit Over People - Noam Chomsky
6. Soviet Fates and Lost Alternatives - Stephen Cohen
7. The Divide - American Injustice in the Age of the Wealth Gap - Matt Taibbi

How this works.  Follow one of the links.  Should you decide to buy that item, or any item, I get a small percentage, which helps to maintain this site.  Your cost is the same, whether you buy from my link or not.  But if the item remains in the cart too long, I don't get a thing.  
Related Posts Plugin for WordPress, Blogger...